History of software used: Why some Affinity Photo's XMP xmpMM tags invisible?

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Affinity Photo registers itself in the XMP Media Management (XMP xmpMM) group as:

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{File.MD.XMP::xmpMM\HistorySoftwareAgent\HistorySoftwareAgent\0}

Date and time can also be found

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{File.MD.XMP::xmpMM\HistoryWhen\HistoryWhen\0}

Unlike DxO PhotoLab, Adobe Photoshop, Capture NX or others that mostly do that here:

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{File.MD.XMP::tiff\Software\Software\0}
{File.MD.Exif::Main\305\Software\0}
{File.MD.creatortool}

possibly linked to date tags:

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{File.MD.XMP::xmp\CreateDate\CreateDate\0}
or

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{File.MD.XMP::xmp\ModifyDate\ModifyDate\0}
or

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{File.Added}


you would have a good basis to reach your goal - to record when and what software was involved in the creation, development, modification and archiving of your photos.  Thankfully, a greate example of something like this I found here:
https://www.photools.com/community/index.php?topic=11470.msg81987#msg81987).

Back to Affinity Photo.
I know, IMatch can map all of Affinity Photo's XMP xmpMM tags. It would really just be a question of how to link the data together and bring it to view in an orderly fashion. ONLY - I can neither see nor read the contents of the two upper History tags -- EVEN though ExifTool or "ExifTool Command Processor" in IMatch can display that (see attachment).

Is this also with you, or does this occur only with me? Thanks in advance!

Bernhard, IMatch 21.14.0.4 @ Windows 10 ver. 21H1

[Mario]

ADMIN: You've posted this in the Tips & Tricks board.
But this board is for writing know-how articles and giving tips to other users! Not for asking random questions.
PLEASE take care to read the board descriptions to know where to post. If you are in doubt, post in General Discussion and Questions.

I will move your post this time into the appropriate board.

[Mario]

Switch the Metadata Panel to the Browser mode to see all tags IMatch has imported.

Check in Tag Manager to make sure the tags you're looking for are imported.
IMatch does by default leave out tags which can flood the database with senseless mass data. MM History is one of these tags.
It can consume megabytes of data, depending on which applications you use. Importing it all by default would be unwise.
Enable only the MM tags you really need.

As always, screen shots don't help that much when it comes to metadata issues.
Always include a sample file.

I can see the data for my AFPHOTO files:



But only after enabling this specific tag in the Tag Manager.
I have no idea why Affinity does not use the Software tag, like any other sensible application. The MM History is for other things, really.

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ADMIN: You've posted this in the Tips & Tricks board.
I will move your post this time into the appropriate board.

Ohhh  , sorry and thank you for moving.

Bernhard

[Mario]

Ohhh  , sorry and thank you for moving.

Every board has a description for a reason.

See my answer to your question and the solution.

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See my answer to your question and the solution.

Score! The Tag Manager did it!



However, I'm sure I haven't changed anything in the settings for ages.
About a week ago I took a screenshot of another photo ... (2022-02-12_180322.png attached)


I don't know. - But thanks a lot!

Bernhard

[Mario]

As I wrote above, large chunks of the MM  namespace are not imported by default by IMatch.
The MM namespace may literally contain megabytes of stuff without use for anybody, clogging up the database with masses of data nobody will ever look at.

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[...] not imported by default by IMatch.

No idea why xmpMM history tags were still visible last week ...

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I have no idea why Affinity does not use the Software tag, like any other sensible application.

... as already stated several times here in the forum.