QuickView Video Speaker icon

Started by ben, April 23, 2024, 07:18:02 PM

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ben

A really minor bug

In the QuickView video Mode the icons for the speaker both show a muted speaker symbol.

One should be indicating muted (e.g. with a small cross) and one not muted.

Mario

I see:

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Mute icon and muted icon.
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sinus

Hmm, I agree with Ben, this is irritating. 
But I do not know, what other programs does. 

And yes, of course it is a minor thing. 
Best wishes from Switzerland! :-)
Markus

Mario

The first icon means: "Mute".
And when you click it or reduce the volume to zero, you get the 2nd muted / sound off icon

Not sure what causes the confusion....
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sinus

I can only speak for me.
Both looks for me the same: mute.

The behaviour for example in YouTube is for me natural and logical.
There is a speaker icon, what is clear for me: sound is on.

If I click on this Speaker-icon, the sound it gone and the icon changes to muted and I know: no sound.

If I click a second time on this muted icon, the first appears again, and I know: again sound.

But I must say: I am really not a "video-expert". I saw only Ben's post, tried it and thought, well, yes, is not logical for me.

Best wishes from Switzerland! :-)
Markus

Mario

#5
So you want me to replace the "speaker X" icon (meaning: Mute) with a normal speaker icon? How would that represent that clicking it would mute the sound? It's just a symbol for a speaker without the X.
I could use the same icon, sans the X, to represent the muted state? Like so?

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Personally, I don't care.
I've drawn over 200 icons over the pasts months, and when more than two users want a different icon for this, I'll draw another one. I'm always open to suggestions.

I would not rate a "I don't like this icon" a bug, though. More like a feature request to re-consider the icon used.

This better?

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Not sure. YouTube uses the same icon but instead of an X they use a  variable "sound wave" to indicate volume (which IMatch does not do). For muted they use a similar "crossed out" speaker symbol to the one I use. I prefer the X since it means "delete/off/disable" in IMatch icon lore.

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Tveloso

I think the question might be whether the icon should represent the state that we're currently in, or the state we'll go to when the icon is clicked.

I don't recall the specifics now, but I have managed to confuse myself on that very thing in the past...and it was on a text-based System, where a function key that acted as a toggle, had a single word to represent each state (so not even with icons - which tend to confuse me more).

Windows uses the "show current state" approach for the mute/unmute icons:

    Screenshot 2024-04-24 064542.png

...so perhaps IMatch should use the same approach?...
--Tony

Mario

#7
YouTube uses this:

Image3.jpg

Windows uses the speaker with the X to indicate a muted state, and a speaker with a "sound wave" to indicate unmuted state. That's probably more suitable for IMatch, being a Windows application. How about this:

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Let's see what the OP says. I'd like to close this ticket.
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sinus

Quote from: Mario on April 24, 2024, 01:03:08 PMWindows uses the speaker with the X to indicate a muted state, and a speaker with a "sound wave" to indicate unmuted state. That's probably more suitable for IMatch, being a Windows application. How about this:


Let's see what the OP says. I'd like to close this ticket.

Yes, for me is this, what you proposed in your last post, very good. Clear for me. 
Exactly, I wonder, what the OP says. 
Best wishes from Switzerland! :-)
Markus

ben

Quote from: Mario on April 24, 2024, 01:03:08 PMYouTube uses this:

Image3.jpg

Windows uses the speaker with the X to indicate a muted state, and a speaker with a "sound wave" to indicate unmuted state. That's probably more suitable for IMatch, being a Windows application. How about this:

Image5.jpg

Let's see what the OP says. I'd like to close this ticket.
The last you posted is totally fine to me as well. It shows two different states.
And I agree, should have been a FR instead of a bug. Sorry about that.