still seeing double entries

Joe Austin · August 27, 2013, 12:08:39 AM

I'm still seeing double entries in 'creator' and 'author' in the default metadata panel even after upgrading to .108, updating my language preference to neutral, and rescanning all folders.

How do you get rid of them?

I have tried removing them manually, but they return after the write-back.

jch2103 · August 27, 2013, 12:40:48 AM

Same problem here (still).

Mario · August 27, 2013, 07:54:07 AM

I need more info.
File format?
Sidecar or embedded metadata?
If the data comes back after write-back it comes in via migration between metadata formats, e.g. from IPTC or EXIF.
Send me one of your files (and include a link to this topic) so I can have a look.

schwarzvogel · August 27, 2013, 09:42:41 AM

Hallo,
ich habe darauf schon bei den letzten Posts zum Versioning hingewiesen !
Ich habe Propagationen vorläufig nur auf "Alle Metadaten" und "XMP Alle Daten" eingestellt.
Doppelte Einträge (oder auch mehr !!) erscheinen in den Feldern "Autor/Creator" und "Keywords"(!!).
Sie kommen immer wieder, auch wenn man mehrfach aktualisieren läßt.
Doppelte Einträge können danach nur manuell entfernt werden, das ist sehr mühsam und sicher nicht im Sinne des Erfinders !
mfG schwarzvogel

cytochrome · August 27, 2013, 11:06:14 AM

I have many of these (even one quadruple author!!) with NEF. I checked with ExiftoolGUI, it is not in the NEF and also not in the xmp sidecar (I still have sidecars in some NEF folders).

Anyway, doing a CTRL rescan (Reload Metadata) cleared it = one author in the Metadata panel.

Francis

PS my Metadata2 settings: ignore sidecar and write to the raw

Joe Austin · August 27, 2013, 01:35:36 PM

Mario,

The file formats involved are .cr2 (versions of .cr2 files exhibit the same behavior).

I have prefs set to use sidecars for raw files.

I am sending a sample of the files , and a snapshot of my metadata preferences to you at the support email.

Mario · September 03, 2013, 08:01:07 PM

Thanks for the file.
I could reproduce it and happens only for certain tags and only if the Metadata Working Group rules are applied.
I'm in contact with Phil about this and we'll come up with a solution.

picolo · September 03, 2013, 08:07:39 PM

Sounds good! I also see still those double entries...

Mario · September 03, 2013, 11:02:28 PM

These duplicate entries are created accidentally by ExifTool when it folds and merges XMP data with MNG tags it produces because of MWG compliance. This can be fixed by Phil only.

Mario · September 05, 2013, 11:04:48 AM

Phil just told me that this duplication is a side effect of a special feature in ExifTool which interferes with the MWG rules.
He will disable this feature so the duplication will not happen again once the new ExifTool version is out and included in IMatch 5 Beta.

Joe Austin · September 05, 2013, 12:25:09 PM

Thanks, good news.

Did he say what it will take to get rid of the existing double entries? Will they disappear on their own? Will the files need to be rescanned? Also, did he give a ballpark timeframe for the new Exiftool version?

Mario · September 05, 2013, 02:31:58 PM

No. No. No.

If the data has been written to the file, you will have to manually remove the dupes.
Or just replace the files with their originals.

(Problems like this are not uncommon for a Beta, and this is why all users are supposed to work only with easily replaceable copies of their images).

You can keep an eye on http://owl.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/ for release notes. I will ship updated versions of ExifTool regularly with IMatch 5.