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Title: IMatch not starting
Post by: denisjc on July 06, 2023, 10:07:53 AM
Installed the new version 2023.1.14 which was running beautifully.
Today, I get as far as the splash screen and then nothing. Tried a reboot, then a reinstall. Tried a fresh download and then reinstall. Still nothing.
What do you suggest?
Title: Re: IMatch not starting
Post by: Mario on July 06, 2023, 10:29:22 AM
Please locate the IMatch log file in the TEMP folder on your system, ZIP and attach it.
See The IMatch Log file (https://www.photools.com/help/imatch/im_logfile.htm?dl=hid-1) for more information.

Did you close IMatch normally yesterday?
Installed any new software?
Which anti-virus software are you using?
Title: Re: IMatch not starting
Post by: denisjc on July 06, 2023, 10:53:27 AM
Thanks Mario
Did you mean the imatch6_log.tx file? It seems to be only 6kb.
I believe I shut IMatch down correctly the last time I used it.
My antivirus is Trend Micro Maximum Security. I installed a new version 1 week ago. Coincidence?
No other recent program installations.
Title: Re: IMatch not starting
Post by: denisjc on July 06, 2023, 11:47:28 AM
Okay. I think I see the problem.
Turn off Trend Micro: IMatch runs perfectly. Turn on Trend Micro: IMatch does not start.
I think a new Trend Micro update must be causing the problem. I will contact Trend Micro for advice.
Thanks Mario.
Title: Re: IMatch not starting
Post by: Mario on July 06, 2023, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: denisjc on July 06, 2023, 11:47:28 AMI think a new Trend Micro update must be causing the problem. I will contact Trend Micro for advice.
Probably a false positive.
But if your virus checker is blocking an application, it should notify you. Not just doing it silently and letting you wonder what the problem is. I would not consider this as good behavior.

Some users running Norton Anti-Virus products could not even install IMatch 2023 - despite the fact that it gets a 100% clean on Google's VirusTotal web site.

I tried to contact Norton and provide IMatch as a sample so they can check why their engine is detecting it wrong.
But they have only a contact form and you can either provide a link for the file to check or upload the file to check. They allow only for 90 MB (?) in size. The IMatch installer is is 350 MB.
I could not find a developer contact to clear this up, so I have up after spending way too much time on Norton.
Title: Re: IMatch not starting
Post by: mopperle on July 06, 2023, 09:54:22 PM
General recommendation regarding AV software: Do not waste any money on AV software. They are full of bloatware to rectify the price. Simply Use Windows Defender. It is as good/bad as any other AV software and it is free.
Title: Re: IMatch not starting
Post by: Mario on July 06, 2023, 10:16:27 PM
Quote from: mopperle on July 06, 2023, 09:54:22 PMGeneral recommendation regarding AV software: Do not waste any money on AV software. They are full of bloatware to rectify the price. Simply Use Windows Defender. It is as good/bad as any other AV software and it is free.

I agree. Since Windows Defender became so good (and free), the anti-virus software vendors have a hard time to justify their annual cost. So they come up with all kinds of extra security features which often just get in the way.

For example, if a software has not been downloaded tens of thousands of times, they consider it a threat. Just like that.
For a niche product like IMatch, with a new version out just two weeks ago and maybe several hundred downloads, they consider it a threat (unless the software comes from their white list of known or paying vendors).

Windows Defender integrated into Windows does a real good job and usually does not get in the way. If you don't need "extra" protection like on-site mail scanning or something, this is all you'll ever need.
Title: Re: IMatch not starting
Post by: denisjc on July 07, 2023, 01:43:36 AM
Since switching off Trend solved the problem, I have been wondering whether there is a work around. There is. I simply added an exception to Trend Micro. All is good.
Thanks for your advice about Defender. I will give it some thought.
Title: Re: IMatch not starting
Post by: Mario on July 07, 2023, 08:45:20 AM
See also: IMPORTANT: Virus Checkers (https://www.photools.com/help/imatch/db_basics.htm?dl=hid-6)