I have done some reading here but there are only one or two threads addressing the subject: https://www.photools.com/community/index.php?topic=2783.0 (https://www.photools.com/community/index.php?topic=2783.0) and https://www.photools.com/community/index.php/topic,4063.0.html (https://www.photools.com/community/index.php/topic,4063.0.html). I have read them and followed the links. I am aware of the fields, including Digital Source Type, but I do not think there is an exif or IPTC dedicated field for the scanner used. I was going to use exif camera make and model, since I do not know what camera was used to take the pictures, but I hate to re-appropriate fields. Who knows, maybe at some point there will be pictures where I know the make and model of the camera and film type used. Then I would need these fields.
Is there a field of which I am not aware? Any advice on where to include the scanner information? I can do it with keywords but I think it is more appropriate to have it with the exif and iptc metadata and I would also like to use the field for automatic naming using the renamer.
Quoteexif or IPTC dedicated field for the scanner used.
Your scanner (software) should record the make and model in the EXIF make and model tags. Does it not?
Note that many image editors and RAW processors rely on make and model, which is why they are marked as read-only by ExifTool and IMatch.
Have a look at https://developer.adobe.com/xmp/docs/XMPNamespaces/ and pick one.
XMP::photoshop\Source\Source maybe? It's official but Adobe dd not bother to describe the use of this tag. in the specs (https://developer.adobe.com/xmp/docs/XMPNamespaces/photoshop/).
Add it to a Metadata Panel layout and you're ready to go.
Or, google for it: https://www.google.com/search?q=where+to+record+information+about+the+scanner+used+in+XMP+metadata
@Damit Maybe you should check your scanner software if there is a setting to write certain metadata.
I use the Nikon LS4000 ED with Silverfast, and the following metadata are written by Silverfast:
{File.MD.Exif::Main\271\Make\0} -> NIKON
{File.MD.Exif::Main\272\Model\0} -> LS4000 Filmstrip
{File.MD.XMP::tiff\Orientation\Orientation\0} -> Horizontal (normal)
Currently I have no scanner attched, so I cant check whether there are special settings in the software.
Quote from: Mario on April 06, 2025, 09:52:12 AMYour scanner (software) should record the make and model in the EXIF make and model tags. Does it not?
Some software won't. One of my Epson scanners can be used with three different software titles provided by the manufacturer. All three fail to record the brand name or the model name or the software title in EXIF. VueScan records all of those things and more.
Quote from: sybersitizen on April 06, 2025, 05:09:23 PMQuote from: Mario on April 06, 2025, 09:52:12 AMYour scanner (software) should record the make and model in the EXIF make and model tags. Does it not?
Some software won't. One of my Epson scanners can be used with three different software titles provided by the manufacturer. All three fail to record the brand name or the model name or the software title in EXIF. VueScan records all of those things and more.
Yes, that is what had me confused. I started using an EpsonFF-680w for huge sets of prints I do not have the time to hand scan and it did not register this information. It is a really primitive software that has a lot of limitations, but I use it because it will automatically edit the prints in a separate copy. Though the edits are crude, it helps me get better looking images to my parents so they can enjoy them ASAP. They are both very old and time is of the essence. This is a labor of love.
So when I looked at the photos done by the FF-680w, I did not see the the scanner information, because it does not store it. It seems this information, when saved by better software, is stored in the exif {File.MD.model} and {File.MD.make}, as reported by @mopperle, but they show up in the metadata Panel under "Camera Data," so I thought it was a misappropriated field. I thought I had inputted the information, when I was a little less respectful of metadata (Mario has schooled me). However, it seems that is the proper place to store this information if Silverfast and Vuescan are doing it. The slides I scanned with my Coolscan, and prints I scanned with the Epson 10000xl do have the information, probably from Silverfast and Vuescan.
Quote from: Mario on April 06, 2025, 09:52:12 AMNote that many image editors and RAW processors rely on make and model, which is why they are marked as read-only by ExifTool and IMatch.
I did notice the warning signs on these fields. I tried to input the make and model information for the Epson FF-680W photos done by Epson Fast Photo and the metadata seemed to write and save, so I assume this can be edited by IMatch and the changes will stick. I try to respect metadata, but I think writing to these fields should not cause a problem. But I do try to heed the warnings of those more sage than I in these subjects, so if there is a better way to do this, I am all ears.
Thanks to all who responded!
Quote from: Damit on April 06, 2025, 05:58:18 PMQuote from: sybersitizen on April 06, 2025, 05:09:23 PMQuote from: Mario on April 06, 2025, 09:52:12 AMYour scanner (software) should record the make and model in the EXIF make and model tags. Does it not?
Some software won't. One of my Epson scanners can be used with three different software titles provided by the manufacturer. All three fail to record the brand name or the model name or the software title in EXIF. VueScan records all of those things and more.
Yes, that is what had me confused. I started using an Epson FF-680w for huge sets of prints I do not have the time to hand scan and it did not register this information.
Yep, the scanner I referred to is its predecessor, the FF-640.
QuoteSo when I looked at the photos done by the FF-680w, I did not see the the scanner information, because it does not store it. It seems this information, when saved by better software, is stored in the exif {File.MD.model} and {File.MD.make}, as reported by @mopperle, but they show up in the metadata Panel under "Camera Data," so I thought it was a misappropriated field. I thought I had inputted the information, when I was a little less respectful of metadata (Mario has schooled me). However, it seems that is the proper place to store this information if Silverfast and Vuescan are doing it.
You must have done that. I myself entered 'Epson' as the make for my FF-640 files, but I didn't bother with the model name. This is what Exiftool shows for a fresh scan from the FF-640 using Epson's software:
ExifTool Version Number : 13.19
File Name : fastfoto_0017_a.jpg
Directory : .
File Size : 4.5 MB
File Modification Date/Time : 2025:04:06 07:41:33-07:00
File Access Date/Time : 2025:04:06 08:15:43-07:00
File Creation Date/Time : 2025:04:06 07:41:33-07:00
File Permissions : -rw-rw-rw-
File Type : JPEG
File Type Extension : jpg
MIME Type : image/jpeg
JFIF Version : 1.01
Resolution Unit : inches
X Resolution : 600
Y Resolution : 600
FF Meta Data : 06
Image Width : 3505
Image Height : 2366
Encoding Process : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits Per Sample : 8
Color Components : 3
Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling : YCbCr4:2:0 (2 2)
Image Size : 3505x2366
Megapixels : 8.3