How can capture date be displayed in file info panel?

Started by Stevef48, June 26, 2021, 06:43:40 PM

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Stevef48

The file info defaults to 'Date: Short Format', this appears to be the date that the file was last modified in IMatch database.
That is not very helpful, as I am in the process of recreating the database.
I would like to replace the displayed date with the date that the image was taken, but I can't see that in the list of fields. Date created is close, but apparently none of my files contain this data; the appropriate entry is blank.
Is there any way to display Date Taken (Capture Date) for each image?
Thanks in advance,
Steve

Mario

What is the file info panel?

The File.DateTime attribute used in the File window is derived from the XMP date subject created or XMP create date, when available. See the Metadata Panel with the 'Default' layout.
This is probably what you would name Capture Date.

See the very informative help topic: How IMatch uses Date and Time Information
Maybe your files do not contain a usable date and IMatch had to fall back to the last modified on disk timestamp?
Run the Metadata Analyst on a file and show us the problems (GREEN BUTTON at the top).
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Stevef48

The file info panel is the information shown with each image in the File Window. I agree that the files probably don't have the original date in the correct field, as they were taken over 20 years ago. The image referred to in "Metadata Analyst Results - 56 Report" shows a date of 20/03/2018, but was taken before 2000. I found this section in the report:-
"id": 63,
      "key": "APP12::PictureInfo\\TimeDate\\DateTimeOriginal\\0",
      "name": "APP12 PictureInfo\\Date/Time Original",
      "values": [
        {
          "value": "1997:02:18 02:53:50"
        }
      ]
Now I need to research how to use Exiftool to copy that into xmp create date.
Thanks

Another issue is different times in JPEGs and their associated RAW images. Some of the JPEGs have a one hour difference between Create Date and Date Subject Created, only the former has +1:00 appended to the time (correct they were taken during British Summer Time, which is UTC +1 hour).
Is this a bug? It is definitely not the camera, because photos taken with two different cameras show this. Sample images are on Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/sh/h9wkq40msa9jmw6/AAC2ntznyUXqZ8_2QhSqXddPa?dl=0
Steve

Mario

You can use a Metadata Template or the Metadata Mechanic to copy metadata between tags. Pay special attention to the comments in the template help topic for the date and time format required.

PictureInfo sounds like something some Mirosoft software did many years ago. Not sure.

Date and time differences. Check the metadata in the file, especially the optional EXIF time offsets, existing XMP data, existing legacy IPTC data etc.
Also check your date and time-related settings under Edit > Preferences > Metadata 2.

I can download your sample files, but my "please check the metadata in my files, because I don't get the results I want and I think something is wrong" support queue is full.
I've spent last week more than a full working day on analyzing and explaining the problems in their files to users. And I'm currently sick of it. Never IMatch's fault, always problems in the file or metadata...
This week I have no time for this, so expect a week or two for a reply.
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Stevef48

I appreciate your problem. My problem is annoying, but not urgent.

Metadata Mechanic doesn't show APP12 PictureInfo\\Date/Time Original, I don't know where Metadata Analyst obtained it from.
Thanks
Steve

Mario

Use the ExifTool Command Processor with the list metadata preset to see all data in your file.
Use {XMPFiles} instead of {Files} to see the data in the sidecar file (if there is one).

I'm quite sure that there is no software other than ExifTool that can show you this amount of metadata. This is why IMatch is using it.
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Mario

The time-zone difference you see is caused by the JPEG having EXIF offset tags:

[ExifIFD]       Offset Time Original            : +00:00
[ExifIFD]       Offset Time Digitized           : +01:00

which are applied by IMatch.

The RAW files have the same time stamps, but don't specify a time-zone offset. Hence the difference.

1. Recommended: Check your process and applications you use and ensure a consistent date and time management.

2. Repair: Set the date and time for both tags in the IMatch metadata panel to correct them.
During write-back IMatch updates the XMP and EXIF timestamps and also the time-zone offsets.

There are also some minor issues (non-synchronized tags) in the XMP file produced by Lightroom. This may be a known bug and maybe Adobe does something about it in a later version of Lightroom.
The Metadata Analyst reports these issues, if you are interested.
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