IMatch 2023.4.2 - toolbar has very small icons

axel.hennig · November 15, 2023, 08:56:12 AM

Does the new toolbar really has that small icons... (see screenshot)?

Bolitho · November 15, 2023, 09:06:14 AM

Yes, they are too small :-(

Mario · November 15, 2023, 09:15:30 AM

This is the regular File Window toolbar. Nothing has changed related to this toolbar for over a year.
The icons are fixed size, 32x32 bitmaps. On your screen it looks like they are somehow overlapped or folded with other icons? Very strange.

I don't get this effect on 3 Windows computers I've tried just right now.

Which settings do you use for IMatch under Edit > Preferences > User Interface?
Toolbar size should be "Big".
Which screen resolution and DPI settings?

Did you try to reboot once and re-install IMatch?

This looks to me as if something is broken with your installation or something...
Is the File Window toolbar the only toolbar that shows this effect? The same toolbar and icons is used everywhere in IMatch.

What happens if you enable experimental features under Edit menu > Preferences > Application?
Does the File Window ribbon look OK?

This is what I see with my installation of IMatch 2034.4.2 (experimental features off) on a clean Windows 11 system:

axel.hennig · November 15, 2023, 10:39:37 AM

Very strange. I can reproduce this on two Computers (Win10 on Laptop and Win11 on Desktop).

Quote from: Mario on November 15, 2023, 09:15:30 AMWhich settings do you use for IMatch under Edit > Preferences > User Interface?
Toolbar size should be "Big".

It is "Normal". Changing it to "Big" does not change anything on the Laptop for the File Window, but changes the size on the Categories panel and Attributes panel (didn't check other panels). See screenshot. But now Categories panel icon size (same for Attributes panel) is too big. "Normal" was what I wanted to have and was working on IMatch 2023.3.6

Changing it to "Big" on the Desktop produces an error (IMatch producing a memory dump file). See screenshot.

Restarting PC and trying to change it again to "Big"... same error (with memory dump file).

Quote from: Mario on November 15, 2023, 09:15:30 AMWhich screen resolution and DPI settings?

PC: 2560 x 1080 (DPI 100% (recommended))
Laptop: 1920 x 1080 (DPI 125% (recommended))

Quote from: Mario on November 15, 2023, 09:15:30 AMDid you try to reboot once and re-install IMatch?

Reboot doesn't help on the Desktop (see above; still producing a memory dump file if trying to change to "Big"). Re-installed IMatch (by just executing the imatch_licensed_2023_4_2_x64.exe again without de-installing (not sure if I would have lost my settings)).

Quote from: Mario on November 15, 2023, 09:15:30 AMIs the File Window toolbar the only toolbar that shows this effect? The same toolbar and icons is used everywhere in IMatch.

No, other toolbars are also affected. See screenshots.

Quote from: Mario on November 15, 2023, 09:15:30 AMWhat happens if you enable experimental features under Edit menu > Preferences > Application?
Does the File Window ribbon look OK?

Laptop: File Window icons looks good (like the new icons much more than the old ones), but Categories panel, Attributes panel,... still too small.
PC: Just realized that I'm not able to change any setting under Edit > Preferences... always error with memory dump file. Will send an email with a link to this post and a link to download the memory dump file.

axel.hennig · November 15, 2023, 10:58:06 AM

Can I savely de-install IMatch (via Windows SoftwareCenter) and install again without loosing my settings (of course I've got a backup, but would be easier without restoring from backup)?

Mario · November 15, 2023, 11:03:52 AM

Quote from: axel.hennig on November 15, 2023, 10:58:06 AMCan I savely de-install IMatch (via Windows SoftwareCenter) and install again without loosing my settings (of course I've got a backup, but would be easier without restoring from backup)?

Yes. Uninstalling IMatch will not delete the settings database or the IMatch database.
Make a backup copy of c:\program data\photools.com before, just in case.

Only some toolbars have been replaced by ribbons in experimental mode. This is an ongoing side project.
I have not changed anything related the toolbars or the icons used for ages. The toolbar icons big/normal just switch between 16 pixel and 32 pixel icons, where 32 pixels icons is the default for IMatch installations on screens with 1900px for many years now.
I have no idea what is causing this. For example, the File Window toolbar uses icons from this PNG image on your PC:

"C:\ProgramData\photools.com\IMatch6\resources\bitmaps\cmd_filewnd_layout_32x32.png"

When you open this image in your image editor, does it look OK?

axel.hennig · November 15, 2023, 11:15:05 AM

Quote from: Mario on November 15, 2023, 11:03:52 AM"C:\ProgramData\photools.com\IMatch6\resources\bitmaps\cmd_filewnd_layout_32x32.png"

When you open this image in your image editor, does it look OK?

Looks okay on Laptop and on Desktop.

axel.hennig · November 15, 2023, 11:36:06 AM

I've created another post which covers the error (memory dump file) problem described above. So this post should contain only the icons problem.

mopperle · November 15, 2023, 12:55:02 PM

Seeing the same with far too small icons. But changing the toolbar size from the default "larger" to "big" solves the problem.
Screen resolution 3840x2160 (15" monitor), scaling 250% (recommended).

Mario · November 15, 2023, 02:52:12 PM

I may have found something that may cause this (I don't see it here).
Probably a side effect of an 3rd image library update when loading bitmaps for toolbars and menus during IMatch startup.
I'll add a patch for the next release and you let me know if the problem is gone or not.

axel.hennig · November 15, 2023, 04:16:19 PM

2023.4.4 solved this issue (the icon-issue) on my end.

Mario · November 15, 2023, 04:45:32 PM

I'd hoped it would. Although I could only guess at the reason for the problem.

mopperle · November 15, 2023, 05:04:53 PM

Yes, it is solved, although in my case I prefer to set Toolbar size to "big".

Bolitho · November 15, 2023, 05:14:16 PM

Has been solved with 2023.4.4 for me.
Completely solved for NON experimental mode.
In experimental mode I have to set the Toolbar size to "Large". Otherwise there seems to be not enough height for two lines, the second one showing the Quick filter.

My main monitor has 4K-UHD resolution.

BTW I really love the quick filter! It speeds up my workflow as I not longer have to switch panels (Metadata vs. Filter).

mastodon · November 15, 2023, 05:39:19 PM

2023.4.4 solved this issue (small icon) for me, too.

Mario · November 15, 2023, 06:14:03 PM

QuoteIn experimental mode I have to set the Toolbar size to "Large". Otherwise there seems to be not enough height for two lines, the second one showing the Quick filter.

I don't understand. Ribbons ignore the toolbar size setting completely.
I also use 4K monitors.
Can you show me a screen shot of the situation where there is not enough space for the two ribbons?

Bolitho · November 16, 2023, 10:09:28 AM

Both screenshots taken at fullscreen:

Normal (first line too low):

Larger (okay):

Probably there is also some space to increase the favorite icons?
To make them look as identical as possible in size as the associated app?

Mario · November 16, 2023, 01:24:08 PM

I was wrong. Ribbons do use the icon size configured under Edit > Preferences > Application. I'll make some additional tests.
I assume you've used "Normal" for the icon size (16 pixel icons) and the effect does not happen with 32px icons. Probably 16 pixel is too small for something...

I've added a dedicated ribbon height setting (between 16 and 128 pixel) to Edit > Preferences > Application.
I can see no ill effects even at the 16 pixel setting.
Maybe you can do some tests to see if you can reproduce this at some specific heights?

Mario · November 16, 2023, 02:57:34 PM

Figured it out.
A 16 pixel icon height (which is the "normal" height used for toolbars) cannot be used with ribbons because the height of the control elements (input fields, drop-down lists) is larger and Windows does not support scaling them.

Since I have now a dedicated ribbon height setting, I can configure the minimum ribbon height based on the height of controls. Problem solved. That's why ribbons are experimental still.

Mees Dekker · November 20, 2023, 05:02:05 PM

On my travelling laptop I see a different height in some of the toolbars. Text is bigger in the file window than in the panels, but icons are smaller. See attached screenshot.

What can I do to adjust both the text size (smaller) and icons (larger).

Mario · November 20, 2023, 05:22:32 PM

You can configure icon sizes and menu sizes. See Adjusting IMatch for High-resolution Displays
All toolbars have the same dimensions.
The maximum size for toolbar icons is 32 pixel. The maximum size for ribbons is 128 pixels.

Note that these settings are computer-specific. They don't travel when you use Pack & Go or copy your settings database manually.

Mees Dekker · November 25, 2023, 03:53:09 PM

My point is that the toolbars do not have the same size. Compare the textsize of "Media&Folders" (left hand side) with the size of "Filter" (right hand side). "Filter" is clearly smaller, but the size of the icons is bigger. The height of the two bars is also not matching.

I'm probably missing some setting somewhere. This is only present on my traveling laptop (13 inch, 3200x1800, Windows scaling: 200%). Could anybody point me in the wright direction?

Mario · November 25, 2023, 04:12:59 PM

The File Window toolbar height adapts to fit in the edit control for the search bar. Which might be larger than the maximum icon size, depending on system control font size, text scaling settings, DPI etc. The Media & Folders and Filter Panel toolbar heights have no edit control element and the height is thus determined by the icon height. This is all done by the user 3rd party interface toolkit, not by IMatch.