How to make Face Tags and the Thesaurus work the way described in Help?

[lnh]

I think I've followed the guidance described in the "Viewer/Annotations/Face Tags and the Thesaurus" section of Help, but it's not working for me. The photos in question do not have any existing face tags. I can place a face annotation in the viewer, but I never see a list of suggested names as I type. I do see recent tags used, but that is all. Is there some other configuration I need to change?

[Mario]

Works here.

When you press <F2> to edit an annotation, a dialog should pop up.
When you start typing, the dialog should show you the matching entries from the thesaurus entry you have selected.

Did you try to select Who|people names|people instead just people?
When you enter a new tag for an annotation, does it show up in the Thesaurus, in the correct place?

[lnh]

Did you try to select Who|people names|people instead just people?
When you enter a new tag for an annotation, does it show up in the Thesaurus, in the correct place?

I've tried the following variations of that setting in Metadata 2. None of them work in changing the behavior I'm seeing.
Keywords Base     [1 - "Who"]|[proper nouns]|people|family
Keywords Base     1 - "Who"|proper nouns|people|family
Keywords Base     1 - Who|proper nouns|people|family
Keywords Base     Who|proper nouns|people|family
Keywords Base     proper nouns|people|family
Keywords Base     people|family
Keywords Base     family

I then did a little experiment with the Thesaurus and created a new set of entries where the hierarchy has all the item's "Group Level" set to "No". This is in contrast to my existing Thesaurus where both [1 - "Who"] and [proper nouns] have "Group Level" set to "Yes".

With this change the feature works as expected. It seems the feature doesn't like having anything in the hierarchy with a group level set to yes. I really don't know if this should be considered a bug or should be filed as a feature request, but at least I now understand the problem.

[Mario]

I think there is no way to find a path if you explicitly remove some of the levels of the tag hierarchy. Not everything that is thinkable is also supportable. In Steve's words: You are not using it right.

[lnh]

Once you understand how your Thesaurus should be structured to make the feature work, it's not a big deal. Maybe adding some additional info about this detail in the Help page would be a good solution for other users. I like how it can integrate with your hierarchical keywords once you get the Thesaurus structure correct.

I'm sure it's a completely different problem, but the Keywords panel where you can "Enter a filter expression here..." deals extremely well with finding entries in your Thesaurus where Group Levels=Yes are present. Overall, the Keywords panel is great!

[Mario]

Maybe adding some additional info about this detail in the Help page would be a good solution for other users.

This would probably confuse users even more. Even the jump from the term tag to keyword confuses users these days. I created the feature to add tags as keywords under a hierarchy element to not pollute the @Keyword category top-level more as needed.

I did not try to figure out any possible pitfall users can come up with,...  it's usually not worth the effort.
The face tag import feature is in place for more than two years - and you are the first user having this particular problem...

I use a hierarchy WHO|person successfully and WHO is a group level!

[lnh]

Mario,

Figured it out. Of course it wasn't Group Level=Yes.

Keywords Base     1 - "WHO"|proper names|people

Doesn't work, however...

Keywords Base     1 - WHO|proper names|people

Does work.

The quote marks is what was making it break. My Thesaurus started life with one of those free controlled vocabulary sets, and it came with that structure using the quotes. Very easy fix.