How can I turn GPS metadata into a metadata template?

[Gasthof]

How can I turn GPS metadata into a metadata template?

1) I take photos with a non-GPS camera - and additionally a photo with GPS data via mobile phone (same place and almost same time).

2) I import the photos into the file system and into the IMatch database.

3. In the image window, I focus on the mobile photo and see the GPS data of the photo in the 'Metadata' panel.

4. In the Metadata panel, I click on 'Save as Template' and give it a name, e.g. 'Siena' (Tuscany, Italy).

5, I open the 'Siena' template for editing - and the template is empty. No GPS data and no other metadata.

6. The next step does not work because there is no data in the 'Siena' template:

a. I select all the photos in the 'Siena' folder or in Timeline (this works, of course).

b. In 'Commands/Metadata Templates', I select the 'Siena' template. If the GPS data was there, I would have tagged all the files with the GPS data for Siena.

This does not work because an empty template is created in step 5.

What am I doing wrong?

(Surely there are other approaches to tagging. However, I don't think the mobile phone method is bad. In particular, I get accurate GPS data when I am in different places during the city tour, e.g. at the city wall, then in front of the cathedral, then at the famous 'Palio').

[Mario]

4. In the Metadata panel, I click on 'Save as Template' and give it a name, e.g. 'Siena' (Tuscany, Italy). 

Known bug. Fixed in IMatch 2025.
See https://www.photools.com/release-notes/ and there #02619, which also explains the work-around.

Just create a new Metadata Template, add the tags you want to fill and set their content.
Or use Locations or AutoFill, depending on how many you need.

[rolandgifford]

(Surely there are other approaches to tagging. However, I don't think the mobile phone method is bad. In particular, I get accurate GPS data when I am in different places during the city tour, e.g. at the city wall, then in front of the cathedral, then at the famous 'Palio').

To do something similar I don't use Templates at all:

1 Select the image with the GPS data and Ctrl/C to copy
2 Select the images I want to copy to then Ctrl/Shift/V to paste selected data, tick just that you want the GPS data pasting

[Mario]

(Surely there are other approaches to tagging. However, I don't think the mobile phone method is bad. In particular, I get accurate GPS data when I am in different places during the city tour, e.g. at the city wall, then in front of the cathedral, then at the famous 'Palio').

This is what Reverse Geocoding does automatically in IMatch. Manually inputting location metadata via MD templates is rarely needed (and complex, due to the structured tags to use).
And if, you're probably better of using IMatch Locations, because they can also visualize on the map, used for selections etc.

[axel.hennig]

Another suggestion: If you already have your Smartphone with you, why not use a GPS logger app. Then, there would be no need to make an additional photo just to have the GPS-coordinates. And IMatch can easily deal with the gpx-file from the logger app.

On Android, I'm using (free version): Geo Tracker - GPS tracker

[Gasthof]

In my experience, loggers, especially mobile phone logger apps, are quite unreliable. It's annoying when only parts of the route have been logged after a four-hour tour.

[Jingo]

In my experience, loggers, especially mobile phone logger apps, are quite unreliable. It's annoying when only parts of the route have been logged after a four-hour tour.

In the past 2 years - I've found these to be VERY reliable - if the phone has a good GPS signal - it works.  If the phone doesn't have a reliable signal, then the image is probably going to have faulty GPS data as well since it is using the same system?